Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/18/1993 01:20 PM Senate FIN

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  SENATE BILL NO. 150                                                          
                                                                               
       An Act providing for oil  and gas exploration licenses,                 
       and oil and gas leases, in  certain areas of the state;                 
       and providing for an effective date.                                    
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce  directed  that SB  150  be brought  on  for                 
  discussion and further directed attention  to CSSB 150 (O&G)                 
  and Amendments 1 through 5.                                                  
                                                                               
  SENATOR LOREN LEMAN and ANNETTE KREITZER, aide to the Senate                 
  Oil and  Gas Committee, came before committee.  Ms. Kreitzer                 
  said that  as backup  material she  was providing  testimony                 
  from five Senate Oil and Gas Committee hearings as well as a                 
  synopsis  of the  differences  between SB  150 and  CSSB 150                 
  (O&G).                                                                       
                                                                               
  Co-chair  Pearce  directed  that   the  meeting  be  briefly                 
  recessed.                                                                    
                                                                               
                       RECESS - 1:30 P.M.                                      
                      RECONVENE - 1:38 P.M.                                    
                                                                               
  Senator Leman explained  that the  Governor's bill, SB  150,                 
  presents  an   alternative  approach  for   exploration  and                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  exploration  licensing.   It  expands  available exploration                 
  options.    It  does not  replace  the  existing competitive                 
  leasing  program; it merely  adds another option.   The main                 
  objective of the bill is to  "get exploration going in areas                 
  of the state  that have drawn  little or no attention  under                 
  current leasing  programs."   The  methodology would  remove                 
  leasing requirements calling for "up-front cash" and instead                 
  devote  financial input  to  exploration.    Companies  will                 
  propose a site for  licensing and a work plan  for the site.                 
  Licenses would issue based on the highest work commitment.                   
                                                                               
  Senator Leman next outlined differences between the original                 
  bill and CSSB 150 (O&G):                                                     
                                                                               
       1.   While  the  original  bill  placed  no  geographic                 
  restrictions on application  of the  bill, the  Oil and  Gas                 
  version excludes the North Slope and portions of Cook Inlet.                 
  Areas  north  of  the Umiat  baseline  remain  available for                 
  leasing under the  regular lease program.   The feeling  was                 
  that excluded areas would not  meet the requirement that the                 
  new license arrangement  apply to  large tracts about  which                 
  little is known.                                                             
                                                                               
       2.   The original bill allowed the licensee to hold the                 
  entire licensed area for  up to ten years.  The  Oil and Gas                 
  version requires relinquishment of 25% after the fourth year                 
  and 10% of  the total  land each year  thereafter.   Senator                 
  Leman  acknowledged  that the  committee  considered  a less                 
  aggressive relinquishment  schedule of 10% of remaining land                 
  but,  in  the  end,  opted  for more  rapid  relinquishment.                 
  Relinquishment  provisions  are  intended   to  prevent  the                 
  hoarding of large tracts of land.                                            
                                                                               
       3.   The original bill called for  bonding of the total                 
  work  commitment.  The Oil and  Gas version requires bonding                 
  of  only  10% of  the  annual  work  commitment.   Testimony                 
  indicated   that   bonding   is   extremely  difficult   for                 
  independent exploration to obtain.  The state does not stand                 
  to lose  much.  If  a licensee  defaults, the tract  of land                 
  would merely be available for license to someone else.                       
                                                                               
       4.   The  original  bill provided  for  an  oral outcry                 
  auction and award on the highest  work commitment.  CSSB 150                 
  (O&G) requires  sealed competitive  bids.   It also  defines                 
  what  expenses   can  be   charged  as   direct  exploration                 
  expenditures.      Concern  was   expressed   that  indirect                 
  exploration work performed somewhere outside the state could                 
  be charged.                                                                  
                                                                               
       5.   The original bill provided that  up to 30,000 acre                 
  leases  would  not  count  against  the existing  1  million                 
  aggregate limit.   CSSB 150 (O&G)  would count these  leases                 
  against that limit.                                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
       6.   The original bill  set the license fee at $1 acre.                 
  The Oil and Gas version says "up to $1/acre."  That provides                 
  the commissioner flexibility to allow for less  than that in                 
  areas  where   it  is  difficult   to  attract  exploration.                 
  Interior basins were specifically noted.   The committee did                 
  not  want  to restrict  exploration  because of  the license                 
  rental cost.                                                                 
                                                                               
       7.   Proof   of   financial   responsibility  was   not                 
  addressed in the  original bill.   Requirements proposed  by                 
  Senator Sharp for  inclusion in CSSB 150  (O&G) define these                 
  requirements based on  the size of the  production facility.                 
  It also reduces  proof of financial provisions  for on-shore                 
  exploration to $1 million.                                                   
                                                                               
  Discussion followed between Senator Rieger and Senator Leman                 
  concerning opportunities for speculation under the  proposed                 
  bill.  Senator  Leman stressed that  in order to receive  an                 
  exploration license,  the applicant  must make  a commitment                 
  for  a  total amount  of  work  broken down  in  annual work                 
  commitments.  The  commissioner will then decide  whether or                 
  not to  issue the license.   If  there is competition  for a                 
  particular tract of land,  the license will issue on  a best                 
  interest finding to the proposal  offering the greatest work                 
  commitment.  If the proposal is not in the best interest  of                 
  the state, and  there is no  competition for the tract,  the                 
  commissioner will not issue the license.  Senator Leman also                 
  noted bond requirements attached to annual work commitments.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Further  discussion  followed  between  Senator  Rieger  and                 
  Senator Leman regarding conversion of an exploration license                 
  to a lease under the existing lease program.   Senator Leman                 
  noted  that  areas converted  to lease  would be  "very much                 
  smaller" than exploration license areas.   Leases are likely                 
  to encompass areas of discovery.                                             
                                                                               
  Responding  to an  additional  question  by Senator  Rieger,                 
  Senator Leman explained  that the  public process (the  best                 
  interest  finding)  is conducted  prior  to issuance  of the                 
  exploration license.                                                         
                                                                               
  Co-chair  Frank   inquired  concerning   need  for   license                 
  provisions allowing for  exclusive right to explore  an area                 
  as opposed  to an  arrangement analogous  to mineral  entry.                 
  Senator Leman  voiced his understanding  that something must                 
  be  provided  in return  for  the commitment  to exploratory                 
  work.   The actual value of such work might be comparable to                 
  what one would bid at a lease sale.                                          
                                                                               
  KEN BOYD, Deputy Director, Division of Oil and Gas, Dept. of                 
  Natural Resources, came  before committee  in response to  a                 
  question from Co-chair Frank.  Mr. Boyd attested to need for                 
  lease  arrangements to  prevent chaos  in administration  of                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  state lands.  The five-year oil  and gas leasing schedule is                 
  the most orderly  and predictable  nationwide.  It  provides                 
  industry  a   means  of  planning,  allows   the  department                 
  opportunity to establish  terms and  conditions in the  best                 
  interest of the state, and allows  ample time for the public                 
  process.  A helter-skelter approach where companies  explore                 
  at will and subsequently  lease areas of discovery  would be                 
  extremely disorderly.   It would  also be difficult  for the                 
  state  to  determine  the value  of  the  land  in the  best                 
  interest  of the  people.   An orderly  schedule  allows the                 
  department to  systematically evaluate  lands as  technology                 
  changes.  It also provides  the additional benefit of  being                 
  able  to  review seismic  data  in  the same  time  frame as                 
  industry.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Extended discussion followed between Co-chair Frank  and Mr.                 
  Boyd regarding differences between  mineral drilling and oil                 
  and gas exploration.                                                         
                                                                               
  In  the   course  of   further   discussion  of   conversion                 
  provisions, Mr. Boyd explained that  a royalty--a minimum of                 
  12.5%-- would be established, up front, in the lease.                        
                                                                               
  Responding  to further  questions from  Co-chair Frank,  Mr.                 
  Boyd spoke at  length to the  workings of the current  lease                 
  program.  Additional discussion  followed regarding the size                 
  of  lease and exploration  areas as well  as existing fields                 
  and productive zones.                                                        
                                                                               
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  Co-chair  Frank continued  to voice  concern over  exclusive                 
  right  provisions  of  the bill,  asking  if  the department                 
  envisioned problems associated  with interest  by more  than                 
  one entity in a particular area if exclusive provisions were                 
  removed.  Mr. Boyd stressed  that interested companies would                 
  all  have  the  opportunity to  compete  for  an exploration                 
  license.  The one that commits to the most work on an annual                 
  basis  would  earn  the  right  to  explore.    Minimal work                 
  commitment levels  and a  method for  valuing proposed  work                 
  will be established in regulations.                                          
                                                                               
  Mr.  Boyd explained  that  the bill  is designed  to attract                 
  "anyone  who  wants   to  do  work  in  Alaska."     Bonding                 
  requirements and  the small up-front  application fee should                 
  accommodate small companies.  Small  companies also have the                 
  opportunity  to  compete in  the  state's five-year  leasing                 
  schedule.   Senator  Leman added that  CSSB 150  (O&G) makes                 
  exploration licensing  more attractive to  smaller companies                 
  without disadvantaging larger companies.   The intent of the                 
  legislation  is  to make  the  opportunity available  to any                 
  company wishing to do the work.  Annette  Kreitzer explained                 
  that relinquishment provisions,  bonding of only 10%  of the                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  annual work  commitment, and definition of what expenditures                 
  would be allowed  under competitive bid made  the bill "more                 
  palatable" to smaller companies.                                             
                                                                               
  Discussion  followed between  Co-chair  Frank  and Mr.  Boyd                 
  regarding  philosophies associated  with  the current  lease                 
  program  versus  proposed exploration  licensing.   Mr. Boyd                 
  noted  that leasing works well in  areas of high potential--                 
  known oil and gas.   He attested to benefits  of exploration                 
  licensing in remote areas where companies may have differing                 
  ideas on methods of exploration.                                             
                                                                               
  Co-chair Frank spoke to proposals from constituents that the                 
  department lower  the lease and bonus bid, reduce the annual                 
  lease rental,  and lease more land.  Mr. Boyd said that such                 
  a proposal was not discussed when the bill was before Senate                 
  Oil and  Gas  Committee.    He then  questioned  ability  to                 
  compete without the  bonus bid and  noted that leases at  $5                 
  and $10 an acre are the lowest available anywhere.                           
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp voiced  his understanding that, under  the Oil                 
  and Gas version  of the  bill, a company  or individual  may                 
  apply for an exploration license on lands anywhere in Alaska                 
  (with the exception of the North Slope and Cook  Inlet) at a                 
  cost  of  $1 an  acre or  $3  per acre  when the  license is                 
  converted  to  a  lease.     He  noted  that  relinquishment                 
  provisions  allow the licensee,  after ten years,  to end up                 
  with as much acreage as an original federal lease.                           
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp said he was more  comfortable with the Oil and                 
  Gas  version  than  the original  bill  because  it promotes                 
  commitments of exploration  dollars in areas where  there is                 
  presently no activity.                                                       
                                                                               
  In  response to  a  question from  Senator Rieger,  Mr. Boyd                 
  acknowledged that leases are assignable with permission from                 
  the Dept. of Natural Resources.                                              
                                                                               
  Further discussion ensued regarding costs and operations  of                 
  the current lease program and statutory provisions contained                 
  within AS 38.05.180(m) and (t).  Referring back to the bill,                 
  Senator Rieger voiced his understanding that the exploration                 
  license would not  entail a plan  of development.  Mr.  Boyd                 
  concurred.   Since  the  license applies  to tracts  of land                 
  about  which  little is  known,  it  would  be difficult  to                 
  develop such a plan.                                                         
                                                                               
  In response to comments by  Senator Kerttula regarding lease                 
  rates, Mr. Boyd stressed that the  philosophy is to allow as                 
  many dollars as  possible to be "put into the  ground."  The                 
  goal of the program is exploration rather than collection of                 
  fees.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce directed attention to  Amendment No. 1 which                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  she  explained  was  proposed by  the  administration.   She                 
  further directed attention to associated correspondence from                 
  James  Eason,  Director  of  the division  of  oil  and gas.                 
  Senator Sharp  MOVED for  adoption  of Amendment  No. 1  for                 
  discussion purposes.   Senator Kerttula OBJECTED.   Mr. Boyd                 
  explained that under  provisions of the current  oil and gas                 
  lease program, if  a sale is  postponed past the quarter  in                 
  which it  was scheduled to  occur, the  department must  "go                 
  through the whole process  again."  It thus takes  two years                 
  to  get  the  sale back  on  the  schedule.   The  amendment                 
  provides the commissioner  a 90-day period in  which to move                 
  the sale.  The statute was originally written in response to                 
  oil company concern that the commissioner might remove lease                 
  sales  from  the  schedule.    In actuality,  under  current                 
  provisions, those with  no interest  in the state's  leasing                 
  program, in  a  pro-development sense,  could  litigate  and                 
  cause  the  state to  miss its  scheduled  date.   Once that                 
  occurs, the sale is effectively delayed for two years.                       
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce asked if the  title of the legislation would                 
  have to be  amended to  accommodate Amendment No.  1.   Both                 
  Senator  Sharp and  Mr.  Boyd  responded  affirmatively  and                 
  directed attention to Amendment No. 4 which would effect the                 
  needed title change.                                                         
                                                                               
  Senator  Sharp  then  AMENDED  his  motion for  adoption  of                 
  Amendment no. 1 to include the title change within Amendment                 
  No. 4.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Senator Kerttula asked  that representatives of the  oil and                 
  gas industries speak  to the amendment.   PAUL QUESNEL, B  P                 
  Exploration, came before committee, voicing support for both                 
  CSSB 150 (O&G) and the  proposed amendment.  Co-chair Pearce                 
  called for a  show of hands  on the  motion for adoption  of                 
  Amendments 1 and 4.  The motion carried on a vote of 4 to 1,                 
  and Amendments 1 and 4 were ADOPTED.                                         
                                                                               
  Senator  Sharp  MOVED  for  adoption  of  Amendment  No.  2.                 
  Senator Leman explained that it would  add "in total and for                 
  each year of the license" to  commitment language at page 3,                 
  line 11.  The amending language  was actually adopted by the                 
  Senate Oil and Gas Committee  but inadvertently omitted from                 
  CSSB 150 (O&G).   Co-chair Pearce  called for objections  to                 
  the motion.  No objection having been raised,  Amendment No.                 
  2 was ADOPTED.                                                               
                                                                               
  Senator  Sharp  MOVED  for  adoption  of  Amendment  No.  3.                 
  Senator Leman explained that deletion  of the word "minimum"                 
  at page 7, line  12, would conform language relating  to the                 
  annual work commitment to like language throughout the bill.                 
  No  objection  having  been  raised,  Amendment  No.  3  was                 
  ADOPTED.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Senator  Sharp  MOVED for  adoption of  Amendment  No. 5.                    
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Senator  Leman  indicated  that deletion  of  "the remaining                 
  land"  at page  5, line  4, would  apply 10%  relinquishment                 
  provisions  to  the total  land area.    It provides  a more                 
  aggressive relinquishment schedule.  Senator Rieger inquired                 
  concerning   whether   relinquishment    percentages   could                 
  mathematically  be  accomplished   over  the  ten-year  time                 
  period.  Senator  Leman explained  that at the  end of  nine                 
  years,  a licensee would have relinquished  75% of the tract                 
  and 85% at  the end of the  tenth year.  The  licensee could                 
  then  convert the remaining acreage  to lease.  No objection                 
  having been raised, Amendment No. 5 was ADOPTED.                             
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger directed  attention to conversion  provisions                 
  at page 7, line 19, and inquired regarding application of AS                 
  38.05.180  subsections not  spelled  out  within  the  bill.                 
  Annette Kreitzer said that she advised the drafter of Senate                 
  Oil and Gas Committee  intent that leases not be  subject to                 
  subsections  other than those cited in the legislation.  The                 
  drafter did not indicate need for specific exclusions within                 
  the bill.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce called for additional testimony on the bill.                 
  None  was  forthcoming.   She  then announced  that Co-chair                 
  Frank  had  asked  that SB  150  be  HELD  in committee  for                 
  additional review.                                                           
                                                                               

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